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I work in the corporate world and our 'IT' staff hasn't upgraded and has no plans to upgrade in the near future. There are a lot of people stuck like that. They are the ones keeping IE6 alive and healthy.

Despite the IE theming issues, it still loads much faster than FF. I have not delved into the FF code to see why it loads so much slower than IE, but it does. When testing client sites during rollout phases I always test in IE, simply because it loads faster. That is a shame...

Well, if you want a fast browser try Opera or Safari.

It's not just the corporate world, here at my university with almost 30,000 students, IT hasn't upgraded their IE6 yet, and to be honest I doubt they've got the skills to be even able to do it.

That's almost as bad as a "Best viewed in ..."

Sure everyone hates IE6, and I'm still dismayed that 30% of my visitors use that stupid thing. But let's not revert to the bad ol' years when we tell users we are too dumb to make our website look decent in their broken browser so they should change.

The best way to get people off of IE6 would be to gradually phase out support for it on your site and maybe add a FAQ somewhere as to why it looks funny.

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Yeah, you can tell people that they're using the wrong browser. Or you can learn how to work with IE's quirks rather than against them. In the seven years since IE6 was released, I've come to know most, if not all, of IE6's bugs rather intimately. And in that time I've learned how to write CSS that isn't hackish and works in IE6.

Sure, I still encounter the occasional IE bug and have to spend a few minutes finding a workaround, but I have to do the same thing for Firefox, Safari, and Opera as well. It comes with the territory. But by accepting that IE6 has limitations and bugs, I've spent less and less time fixing IE-specific issues. IE issues probably contribute about two to three percent of my total development time. It's negligible.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still like IE6 to go away as soon as possible to be replaced with IE7 (or even IE8), but browser cycles take a long time and we're not likely to see it dip below that magical 5% barrier for several more years. So if you really want to save yourself some stress, just accept that IE6 has problems and learn how to avoid them in the first place. You'll find you spend less time (and sanity) working around browser bugs when you do.

What is wrong with using firefox?

I have to use it at work because no one has bothered to take the time to upgrade the company. I complain bitterly every chance I get but it falls on deaf ears - cost is the only consideration and it is perceived as a huge cost burden to fix something that isn't broken. I have no doubt that IE6 will be with us for many years to come because of this attitude, and its a shame.

I empathasize with the reader/writer who says that corporate has IE installed by default on a lot of machines and consider it a serious cost to upgrade and therefore no upgrades take place.

There are a lot of IT department heads in the middle east and the far east who still think that Microsoft can do no wrong. They won't upgrade or budget time or resources to "fix" something that they don't think is broken.

When they get the security alerts from various places, concerning yet another IE problem, many of them simply say, "Well, we are behind douhle firewalls with non-routable ip addresses so while others may be having a problem, we are more or less protected." That's not entirely true of course but go figure ...

If you use hitbox to review worldwide usage statistics, peek at the stat for the ton of user's still using 800by600 computer screens, it's a good bet that many of these same users are also stuck in a corporate office somewhere using an older version of IE too.

Just me three cents worth.

Dino DeLellis

No, doubt IE loads it self quickly on Windows OS right at your click but still it take ages to load the pages, and can even take up to 2 minuets sometime if the page contains graphics. Where Firefox is very fast. I do not know how to fix IE but apparently the solution can be to use Firefox as my designs look great at it too and crap on Internet Explorer but still I have to use IE as being a designer I want to know how the world see my web design.

Thanks for info!!!!!!

not IE 6. The problem are the people who use IE6. Most of the IE6 Versions are localized in schools and global office`s that never update anything and have to work with the old browser. We should start to help them for an update ;)

Thanks for the info.

The truth is that ff is getting very slow. It changes a little bit from version 2 to 3 but is already a problem. But nobody should forget, that ff has extremly good plugins. IE looks like an old man on the other hand. ;)